Unveiling the Hidden Treasures of Greek Pottery: The Ajax and Achilles Amphora
Greek pottery is known for its intricate designs and captivating stories, but did you know that many pots have ‘B-sides’? One fascinating example is the Ajax and Achilles playing dice amphora, which has an incredible yet lesser-known second scene. This intriguing aspect of Greek pots adds a layer of complexity to our understanding of ancient art.
Discovering the Ajax and Achilles Pot
The Ajax and Achilles amphora is remarkable not only for its primary depiction of these iconic heroes engaged in a game of dice but also for what lies on its reverse side. As many enthusiasts and scholars have pondered, it raises the question: what exactly is portrayed on the other side of this stunning vessel?
A Journey Beyond the Trojan War
Upon flipping the amphora, we are greeted by a strikingly different scene that shifts the focus away from the Trojan War. Instead of war and conflict, this side showcases Heracles, one of the most celebrated Greek heroes, known for his countless exploits and the Twelve Labors he undertook.
The Apotheosis of Heracles
This captivating depiction illustrates Heracles being drawn in a chariot to Olympus, marking his ascension to godhood—a moment known as his apotheosis or deification. It’s a powerful narrative that encapsulates the idea of heroism, transformation, and the eternal struggle between mortality and divinity.
A Divine Assembly
In this scene, we also encounter an intriguing assembly of Greek deities. Dionysus, the god of wine, is present, elegantly holding a wine cup, while Apollo and Hermes, the messenger god, guide the horses. Each character plays a vital role in conveying the divine approval of Heracles’ journey to Olympus.
The Lack of Narrative Connection
Interestingly, this secondary scene bears no direct narrative connection to the primary depiction of Ajax and Achilles playing dice. This characteristic is quite common in Greek pottery, where two distinct scenes often coexist—one being the main attraction and the other serving as a secondary illustration that sometimes feels unrelated.
The Intriguing Concept of B-sides
While "B-sides" are typically associated with music, the concept resonates equally well with Greek pottery. In the realm of ancient ceramics, the secondary scenes often vary in compositional quality and thematic depth compared to their more prominent counterparts.
A Lesser-Known Masterpiece
Although the B-side of the Ajax and Achilles amphora might not possess the same compositional beauty and clarity as the main scene, it still presents a rich tapestry of meaning. In this case, the arrangement of characters creates a sense of clustering that diminishes visual clarity, a common challenge faced in black-figure pottery.
The Complexity of Composition
The overlapping figures present on this side of the amphora can be visually overwhelming. In black-figure techniques, distinguishing one character from another can be quite difficult, especially when they are layered upon one another.
The Role of Color in Representation
Initially, the clarity of characters such as Athena and Heracles may have benefited from the addition of white paint to denote female figures. However, this detail has faded over time, leaving us with a more ambiguous portrayal that hints at the complexities of ancient artistic practices.
Thematic Resonance Among Heroes
While there is no direct link between the two scenes, a thematic connection does emerge when considering the figures of Ajax, Achilles, and Heracles. All three heroes, celebrated for their strength and valor, exemplify the archetypal image of perfect masculinity in the Greek context.
Exploring Heroic Archetypes
Ajax and Achilles, much like Heracles, are tragic figures who experience untimely deaths. This shared fate creates an interesting parallel, drawing attention to the ideals of heroism, mortality, and the pursuit of glory that pervade Greek mythology.
Deconstructing Visual Narratives
As we delve deeper into the artwork of Greek pottery, we start to recognize the intricate narratives artists wove into their pieces. The B-side of the Ajax and Achilles amphora is a perfect example of how layers of meaning can exist even where direct storytelling does not.
Final Thoughts on Greek Pots
The Ajax and Achilles amphora serves as a compelling case study in the world of ancient ceramics. With a captivating main scene and a thought-provoking B-side, it encourages us to look beyond surface appearances and appreciate the depth and complexity of Greek artistry.
Celebrate the Intricacies of Greek Pottery
Next time you come across a Greek pot, take a moment to consider what might lie on its less prominently featured side. The stories told through these vessels are not only about the heroic actions and legendary figures but also reflect the philosophical musings of a civilization that still resonates with us today.
As promised here's the other side of the Ajax and Achilles amphora, affectionately referred to as a 'B-side' by our curator Victoria Donnellan (it isn't entirely clear to us whether this is an official academic term used by scholars of Greek pottery, but if it isn't it definitely should be!). In case you missed Vicky's earlier video, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTJoDdQGI6s
So when you will have a giveaway for our friends in Athens?
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You are nothing but thieves. Give us our stuff back. If of course you want to get rid of the name "thieves". We are competent and we CAN keep our artifacts safe. you have effectively stolen and repeatedly refused to give back a huge part of our culture. Shame on you
Why is the video so dark
Did they figure out that the B side is usually facing a wall . Nice jugs.
Curator's Corner is always a revelation. As a potter I have always wondered about "B" sides. Many potters will ignore it and do nothing. I have mostly endeavoured to make vase forms that are all "A" side but not always successfully. I am so glad to hear that the much lauded classical Greek pot painters faced the same challenges.
I've always wondered why if you pronounce it correctly it's "hair-ah-cleese" but in common usage it's "Hurk-you-lees"?
i can not imagine the effort that was put into those ceramics….
Throw the dice all you like, your enemy still goes to heaven?
I've watched both of the amphora videos. I wonder who that amphora was originally intended for — after the artist created it? After seeing the first video, I spent the rest of my evening learning about Achilles and Ajax. I have no knowledge of Greek mythology so Victoria's discussions of what the amphora's drawing signify have whetted my interest in that area.
Why are there Celtic spirals on the "B" side?
So what’s so embarrassing about that?
I note the convention of painting women in a lighter colour was also used to the South in Egypt. Some people have tried to interpret the convention as a reality. I can't see any biological way that could happen, so good luck to them!
When the in-laws came to visit, you would have to turn the displayed side of the pots to avoid fights.
Return it to Greece
Is she giggling because it's stolen?
Just coming across these very interesting videos. Interesting contrast. Heracles becomes a god. Ajax and Achilles are mortals who go down into Hades. Do we know what the jar once contained? Anyway, thank you so much for these videos.
The Los Angeles Museum has loads and loads of perfect examples of these Greek "pots" or ?? Make sure to see them if you're ever in LA.
I'm glad we have these lovely Ph,D's to 'splain this to moi, because the horses ass was the first thing I noticed on the "reverse" side. Got an Award like that once, just that back half of the horse.
A simple question from someone who knows nothing about the subject; how do you know which side is A and which B?
I think the back is beautiful. So intricate and surely took a lot more time and effort. I wonder actually which is the back?
I did not like the stupid snob at the start mimicking her accent.
Did the same artist always paint both the A and B sides? For example, did the master artist paint the A side and then give the pot to a student to finish the B side? What made me wonder was the statement that B sides were often mass produced.
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1) I thing the scene of Heracles is actually the A scene, and the scene of Ajax is the b scene.
2) The common thing of Heracles with Apollo, Hermes and Dionysus is that they are all sons of Zeus.
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Fascinating. Thank you for an enlightening glimpse into the past.
0:25 "some of the gods are the same"…but the names have been changed to protect the innocent
It's like watching telly innit? somedays you want to watch one channel somedays the other XD
Looks corrupted. Graeco-roman art was pinched. My money's on it being Etruscan as that's where it was found. The Etruscans burried their dead well!
How come the white beard didn't come off over time? Two completely different scenes… that wouldn't make sense! Must have been that journey from the grave to the museum! Perhaps the lady was a red head like all the ladies in the Pompeii exhibition? And the Phoenicians and the Cartheginians(Cathars). Cathars were burnt at the stake because they adored the sun. Murderer with a sense of humour was Pope Innocent!
Rome was very good at stealing Gods. No country knows this better than England!
Hmm… interesting. What about the feet? Does it have mark & a stample like chinese pottery?
to return them where they belong were not made in England in Greek soils by Greek hands were created
Not overly enamoured of dying young being a characteristic of perfect manhood 😀
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Damn where can I get a pot like that?
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Grave robbers and thieves have no place on YouTube.
Somebody exaggerated "just a bit" with the colors and filters in this video… 🙂
So, what was it that was making her laugh? I was expecting the B side to portray something “naughty” after that and the title 😜
Fire whoever was responsible for lighting.